1 Onderwerp door David

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Onderwerp: Open Letter to the Developer(s)

i'm a player who has been playing this game since February 2009, on the old stable, almost 2 years now.
not many players know me, publicity in this game can be lethal many times. and i rarely do participate here, for mostly, the game is just enjoyable. i read the board all the time.
lately, on the new stable server, the game started getting new and weird rules, from 2, if you may excuse me, either completely naive moderators, or extremely sinister moderators, you can pick between the 2.

the main audience for this letter is Daedeloth, and if there are any other developers interested.
this letter is NOT addressed to any moderator, and quite frankly, i dont care the one bit what you have to say, so stay out of this.

the main reason i decided to write this letter, is that earlier this evening, 2 players, 2 good players, were reset because they exchanged 50K food for some runes. yes total reset. because according to some made-up law, by some moderator, that exchanged wasn't balanced. i never knew that moderators are the new stock exhange of this game, defining what the price of a rune is.

is this the sort of rules the developers want and endorse? i repeat, this is not to be answered by any moderator, i am asking the developers. is that type of rules what they want? so they really endorse these rules?

i cant send resources to friends in need, i can send weapons, but here's the fun part, i cant ask for them back (dont look at me, mods said that). i cant send runes to friends suffering heavy loses and in precious need of water runes for their farms. i cant send food for troops that are stationed in a friend's village. i cant attack a player, because he's a moderator (they're gods last i've heard). i cant be an *ally*, simply put. i am in a clan... just to have a brand on my shoulder, that's i'm in a clan. but clan chat is about the only thing i'm allowed to exercise in my clan.

is this what developers want? did they really coded the marketplace so that we can barely be able to use it?

as i write this, and excuse the vulgarity, but i just saw one of the moderators telling a player that he's moaning and bitching in chat. is this really the type of moderators the developers want. the said mod is called "Demo"... i guess he's just a demo mod... well this demo is failing, you need a new prototype.

once upon a long time ago, i played a server with over 150 actives. i was leading a fair-sized clan ranked between 4th and 8th, we used to exchange resources, we used to have constant warring against the major center clans, we used to have fun. i was a frontline player, too close to enemies, and not the biggest in my clan. troops and resources were stationed in my village for weeks at a time, constant attacks by larger players reaping hordes of runes, while we retaliate reclaiming them all back, and sometimes more, farms and other buildings wiped out in a day, and thanks to gnerous help of clan, rebuilt in few days... i cant imagine how the game would have been even playable, if only me getting attaced, and my clan cant send me anything.

the game has no more than 30 actives per server, i am playing on 3 servers to kil time, and it's not cutting it anymore. there's no more fun... no more wars... no one DARES start a war because no one can afford it if they cant be helped. secret allies? non-existant anymore, for they cant even exchange balancedly with each other anymore.

what this game needs yet to be complete? the moderators telling us whom and when to attack, the moderators controlling all our villages while we sit and watch... listening to their verbiage of vulgarity falling on the chat...

David
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2 Reactie door Jerico

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Re: Open Letter to the Developer(s)

I like to agree with you that the trading rules are stupid and as are should not be rules, i understand not wanting players to be "pushed" but your not dealing with pushing. to my understanding they followed the rules imaginary items were exchanged which means they followed the rules, you say its not a fair trade? who are you to determine a fair trade, i've been hard up for food/other resources i would trade runes for them. Depending on the situation what looks to be an unfair trade really benefits both parties. hey he has food to retrain and have support munch on while the other can build some random building, to me that seems fair. If that is truely the only reason they were reset then these rules are barbaric and makes it seem peak and demo are kings in a feudal times. Listen im all for keeping players from being pushed(IE Demo as he has admitted was pushed) but restricting a crucial part of the game is terrible. These rules are obviously not working since your(daed) server population isn't rising its falling.  You need 1) new mods 2) new rules 3) a beta server that's actually worth playing on to test(IE this rumored dev server; new rune sources,12 hour spells etc.) 4) if mods want to play then they have to fucking play, none of this "hey frodo is attacking me guess everyone online should attack him" bullshit, don't threaten people because they watch you play sim city and get pissed off because they have no one to attack, suck it up and defend yourself or play one of the other servers your not modding.

I'd also like to point out i have no personal problem with any mod or player, just your actions and hypocrisy

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as stated earlier, i actually have no interest in reading your replies. i've had a ton of them before, and they served me no good in the past, i hardly think they'll be any good now.

i want the developer's answer on this. and yes, it's in forum, players deserve to know what's happening.

as for your "they broke rules" sentiment... they broke "your rules"... rules that so far, i only see 2 people out of the 50 or so in dolumar, agreeing on. this post is NOT about who broke and how, the rules... this about the rules themselves.

4 Reactie door Wolfieke Laatst bewerkt door Wolfieke (2011-01-21 19:23:41)

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David I think you don't understand the rules.
You can trade with anyone you want.
You can't send stuff to a higher player for free.
You can send free stuff to a smaller player.
You can't trade res for runes.
Mods send warnings now, they don't just reset.
The rules are not made up by mods alone.
It's my understanding these rules where created by mods and devs togheter to keep the game balanced and allow us to play untill the dev can develop the game until we wont need them anymore.
The mods are not playing (one is a very close friend off mine and I miss him not playing and I'm sure they miss it too).
The mods are helping in development and letting players help out too.
They try to keep the peace on chat.
What more do you want?

edit: just because I like to nag: Maybe players don't want to start a war because the looser loose to much and it takes to long to rebuild even with help from friends?
25% a day is to much.

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5 Reactie door Jerico Laatst bewerkt door Jerico (2011-01-21 19:47:30)

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I'd mod, but i much prefer enjoying the only good thing currently about this game, the players, more specificly the clan im in. If i modded i couldn't be in that clan hence id miss some enjoyable conversations and laughs. currently with the rules and regulations and lack of updates the game is not worth my time to mod.

You state you want us to tell you all what we want to see improved, but the truth is 99% of the time it's ignored, whats the point in wasting my breath

Like i said who are you to dictate whats a fair trade? fair to you is unfair to me, as fair to me is unfair to you. your basing rules on opinions not facts, the fact is the current players needs dictate whats fair, and some people are better at bargaining. Are you going to go to a marketplace and arrest a dealer for getting someone to pay more for an item then normal? no because it retarded. As i have come to understand this situation they were acting like a good clan SUPPORTING each other. I'm sorry i'm not going to msg a mod to tell them why im sending someone something, the bottom line it's none of your business. Sure do what a responsible person would do and let players play and flag suspicious transaction and take diplomatic action(not reset now ask questions later) Reseting a player should be your last resort. In fact instead of daed wasteing his time coding in a way for you two to play without being attacked and in the rankings why not something usefull like a suspend feature, to suspend an account for said amount of days(also with a feature to leave them in protection mode and out of protection mode, shouldn't be hard since you already have the script with vmode.)

Face it demo your not helping playing them game, but in my opinon your not hurting, playing sim city. The fact is you two don't know how to be diplomatic about anything. Instead of blowing off frodo's weak little attack you PUBLICLY announce his attack to everyone in chat. Now i understand you say your not playing the game, but the fact you intentionly try and get frodo countered by somone else is in fact playing the game. You say "you guys don't want us to play with want we know" the truth is aside from a handful of people you two would be leveled in a week since 3/4 of this server wants nothing more then your runes, your info is useless against an entire server. Helli(for his latest brief stint) managed to mod and not play as did several others. There is in fact other servers for you to conquer, not just the one your modding. I know you have the time since you manage to have numerous multis playing on beta. You claim you don't need friends and being mod won't get your friends, and doing things your way is true you won't get friends that way. However, your failing to realize the use of having people respect you. you would get so much more done, and we wouldn't be argueing about some bullshit currently. You don't have to try and make friends, but the player base understand certain actions must be done, and will understand(unless of course they are cheating, because cheaters are always being wronged.)

As for your last statment i must say your wrong, i can call you whatever i want, but you can't. You know why? its part of your job. Your representing Daed, his game and everyone else, and when you sling "fuck offs" and "your a shit eating moron"(i've never actualy heard him say these im just giving examples) to players your making not only yourself seem unprofessional and juvenile, but your making daed seem like a retard for letting these simpletons mod his servers. It sucks but thats the truth, you may not see it as a job that requires you to be professional, and if thats the case your not qualified to be a mod i'm sorry thats just how shit works, deal with it. So for example i can go right ahead and call your a shit eating homo and the only response(or similar) you can give me is "thank you for your input i'll get right on top of that"
You want us to uphold a standard in the game, which is fine by me, but stop being a hypocrite and maintain a standard for yourself and peak, none of these petty threats.

Either peak is entirely grasping my concept(if so props peak), or he just doesn't bother doing anything anymore..Ironically enough Peak was the most hated mod on this server, and he understood one important thing, silence. "if you do something right people will never know you've done anything at all". Demo you insist on replying to this topic, although clearly the poster did not want you too(which shows a lack of respect for the players you mod), but i could bet peak wouldn't. Your too vocal, now i say that but at the same time you need a vocal mod, and here in lies the mods problem. They don't have someone currently the players respect enough to be vocal without ridicule(which in turn leads to bans and more hate) in fact i know several players who have the mods blocked, seriously daed what does that tell you?

Demo: I have nothing against you or you being mod, i honestly don't. However you refuse to conform to general rules of people who in theory are our "superiors" but at the same time want us to conform to your rule set. How you two have the rules set up requires mods to be on literally going through everyone's shit, which im not cool with. When your digging so deep you start asking people why they messaged the other is entirely uncalled for and unprofessional, what we say to one another is ENTIRELY none of your business.

EDIT
As for wolfie's post and quoting the "rules"
you can't send res for runes, WHY THE FUCK  NOT?
when  you actually sit down and think there is in fact TWO rune suppliers, and one(scouting) accounts for probably 90% of the runes on this server. the other being buy them with cash

the runes you attack for come from 2 places(scouting and buying)
so really the resources are as important as runes, so why can't i trade resources for runes, it makes no logical sense. I should be able to barter anything for anything, all your doing is complicating these rules. I will not follow that rule because it is retarded

double edit

1) to the mods credit i havn't seen bans in awhile which is exactly how it should be
2) the mods are in fact playing(heli was not, because you know his value was 200) despite what the tell you. sim city is still playing anyway you look at it.

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Jerico the res for runes thing is in the rules now.
I hate the rules just as much as anyone else.
I pmed Daed months ago to say if I saw rules like that in any game I wouldn't even bother to start playing and they would cause problems.
For some reason I did start playing, I read the rules, I have told the dev what I didn't like, saw similar things here on the forum.
I keep to these rules. If a mod asks a question I will do my best to answer it. If he tells me something I do is not right, I don't do it anymore.
Not agreeing with these rules does NOT mean you can break them. We all know this wasn't the first time for those 2 players and they have been warned more then onces. If you don't agree, put it on here or pm Daed. His email is on here, on the imprint, he has a village on every server.
Don't blame the mods for these rules, have patience, the dev has little time but he is working on the game. Untill then we will have to do with what we have.

And yes, Demo needs to hold back just a little more, but you have to agree he has been trying very hard and has changed alot. He's not God, he is still human. So is every mod and will every mod be (unless you have some supercomputermod hiden away somewhere)

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7 Reactie door frodo

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I disagree with alot demo has said but will not argue anymore. Its pointless.

Just for the record. I was and still am more then willing to moderate. I know quite a few others that are as well and have stated so. My only statement was not with Peak or Demo. I just dont believe the way it (modding) has been handled was the correct way. I do applaud the attempt to stop the cheating. Anywho. Stable 1 reset soon? Put me in coach with a few other players who want to mod and see what happens between the different type of mods.

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8 Reactie door frodo Laatst bewerkt door frodo (2011-01-21 23:36:01)

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Wow so im too stupid to understand that game? What a crock of shit Demo. I've played this game  the 2nd longest . Invisy is the longest i think by a day or hours. I forget

Knowledge of bugs? I think we have a list of it...

How to read a moderator panel that alerts you to things. Weird im pretty sure I can handle it or learn it.

For gods sake I can talk someone out of killing themselves, I can tell someone over the phone how to do CPR but ohhhh I just cant understand this panel... woahh is me.

Who is we? You and Yan? You both admit you have worked the system and your working it now.
Your head is bigger than the country you live in.

You lie so much you cant keep it straight.

I call bullshit.

Daedeloth I hope you start listening to the "little people" who are not smart enough to understand the dynamics of the game. Because us little people will no longer continue to play.
Personally I think Demo is no better than Whamra. If I had to choose I'd go with Whamra.
Knowing me Daedeloth you know thats big.

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frodo schreef:

Wow so im too stupid to understand that game? What a crock of shit Demo. I've played this game  the 2nd longest . Invisy is the longest i think by a day or hours. I forget

Knowledge of bugs? I think we have a list of it...

How to read a moderator panel that alerts you to things. Weird im pretty sure I can handle it or learn it.

For gods sake I can talk someone out of killing themselves, I can tell someone over the phone how to do CPR but ohhhh I just cant understand this panel... woahh is me.

Who is we? You and Yan? You both admit you have worked the system and your working it now.
Your head is bigger than the country you live in.

You lie so much you cant keep it straight.

I call bullshit.

Daedeloth I hope you start listening to the "little people" who are not smart enough to understand the dynamics of the game. Because us little people will no longer continue to play.
Personally I think Demo is no better than Whamra. If I had to choose I'd go with Whamra.
Knowing me Daedeloth you know thats big.


Frodo he said them, not you. You said yourself you don't want to be mod with these mods.
Please don't take everything personal.
I know I am one off them, cause I have heard off ways to cheat I wouldn't think off in a million years. Modding is a hard job, maybe you would be up for it, many who want to be aren't.

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10 Reactie door whamra1987 Laatst bewerkt door whamra1987 (2011-01-22 04:25:29)

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i think what frodo was meaning... is that different servers are run by different moderators. so what if he refuses to work with yan and demonic? the other server could have its own admin and own set of moderators. it's not written in stone anywhere that mods are the owners of all servers as far as i'm concerned.

edit: and frodo... glad to know you'd pick me over demo, lol. how about we both mod some server? tongue

just that guy... remember him? didn't expect you to...

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Bah, I could write a novel here, but I won't.

David (are u davidck??) sorry your post got off on a tangent. Hopefully Daedeloth will see it and respond.

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Demonic schreef:

Claiming they send runes to replace the resources, telling mods they forgot.
It takes the mods a lot of time to make sure the players don't go into an exxessive form of abuse,
When 2 players (who got reset before for cheating in the same way) are warned a couple of times, asked nicely a couple of times still don't play by the rules do you really think those players should be allowed to play with people that DO play by the rules?
I think not!

Per the request of a couple of the players in this thread, I've dug through the logs in question - all of them.  I approached the situation from the reverse... I tried to play the devil's advocate.  I went into the situation not only with the assumption "innocent until proven guilty," but also with the intention to PROVE innocence or, at minimum, some form of reasonable doubt.  In my opinion, that is the only good way of reviewing the work of another moderator.  You assume that they did everything wrong, and go back and start from the very beginning.

To be perfectly honest, I would have reset these accounts as well.  Even on stable 1, we would reset players for rune manufacturing (exploiting one or more game dynamics to create runes).  I've reset bigger players than these two for less - and like I've said before, I stand behind every reset that I've ever ordered except for the first one... one of the vDc guys. 

There is also the pushing issue.  Under the current ruleset, which I do believe has its good points and its bad points, I would also have ordered a reset.  The "pushing" rule was one that was originally coded into the trading feature on stable 1.  You could send runes or resources ONLY to players who were 1.25x your networth (or something along those lines - I need to look).  This restriction was bypassed by "laddering."  Bottom line, the "no-pushing" rule was coded into the game, bypassed/side-stepped by some clever people, which forced the mods to begin performing resets for this activity.  That said, we do understand that different runes have different "values," but when we see (hypothetically) that a player was receiving stone in exchange for water runes... well, that's not really a fair (reasonable) trade.

Let me me wrap this up by also saying that several of you know how contact me outside Dolumar if there are problems.  If someone has a problem with a player or a moderator - I can be found, and easily.  I promise, as always to take both sides seriously.  And one more thing, if the moderator is being a jerk... let me know... I love to chew out a member of the mod panel.

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13 Reactie door Daedeloth

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Re: Open Letter to the Developer(s)

I'm in the middle of my exams at the moment, so I can't do much right now. However, we'll need to take a very close look at these game rules that are being enforced.

For now I've taken the responsibility of approving resets back, so this time I'll need to see a pretty impressive reason before I'll hit that "confirm reset" button.

However, I still trust my moderators, I'm taking this power back because this way I can clearly state that I approved the reset.

As for the previous resets: I don't know enough about them to say anything, but I'll take a closer look at them soon. If the players send me a little explanation I can maybe do an unreset after talking with the moderators.

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14 Reactie door Demonic Laatst bewerkt door Demonic (2011-01-22 16:04:04)

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Thnx Thijs!!

I hope this will release some of the pressure that we're getting whenever we're doing anything wink

Your village is 38100% bigger than the defending village. You will probably lose 90 honour by attacking this village. If someone of your clan attacked this village earlier, every clan member will lose honour.

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whamra1987 schreef:

how about we both mod some server? tongue

I wouldn't be opposed to it.

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16 Reactie door Wolfieke Laatst bewerkt door Wolfieke (2011-01-23 13:09:58)

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Daedeloth schreef:

I'm in the middle of my exams at the moment, so I can't do much right now. However, we'll need to take a very close look at these game rules that are being enforced.

For now I've taken the responsibility of approving resets back, so this time I'll need to see a pretty impressive reason before I'll hit that "confirm reset" button.

However, I still trust my moderators, I'm taking this power back because this way I can clearly state that I approved the reset.

As for the previous resets: I don't know enough about them to say anything, but I'll take a closer look at them soon. If the players send me a little explanation I can maybe do an unreset after talking with the moderators.


Thijs could it please be possible to work with the mods on some good and clear rules that can't (or atleast not easy) be abused by players and mods (not pointing fingers here) so we can go on playing and keep playing while you work on the bugs and problems that have been in the game for ... I don't know ... over a year now ( some even from the very start of stable 1)?

What I read in your answer is. I trust my mods but I'm still checking on them.
I don't have time, but I'll do more work off people I need to do my work cause I don't have time aldo I trust them.
And we can all bend the rules as much as we want, only big breaks will get us reset.

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17 Reactie door Wolfieke

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Right Demonic. It's the same thing over and over again. And when it happens you get crap (actualy mods get crap all the time) we get crap. We can't play for a while cause we don't know what to do with what happend. In this case I asked helli to check so the "demo is a bad mod"thing doesn't matter. Atleast we can play on now. But if we want to do something we are not sure about, we still have to ask o mod while on this game you need to be able to take decisions in seconds. We can still cause crap cause mods are able to let one player get away with more then another. More crap. When players open their mouth they get all the crap. And if the that doesn't work we get personal, even in a way off breing peoples bedpartners into it, what for the record is one since I broke with my ex over 3 years ago, just in case someone wants to use that against me again.) Now we have a dev taking on more work when we are waiting for one problem in this game to be fixed. Humans can't do much playing so long, gualvillages still overpower players who are waiting for this fix, and can wait a little longer cause the only dev we have keeps coming up with halfworked out solutions wich only cause more problems if he even finds the time to do them. When there are still a million reasons that keep us from playing, a million reasons to quit and a million reason wy no newbies are coming. This all when we players get personal and have to deal with more crap then just the game when the game itselves makes it damn hard to do anything, not make others quit or quit yourself.
All I ask is to make one good temporary solution so we can go on in somewhat a decend way, while the dev works on the developing part. Not come back on it when you run into a problem but work the one you have out, so we can finaly see some improvement instead off the same crap coming back for years now.

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And for the numbers. Our clan had to pull all the legaal stuff they can think off to defend themselves against a clan who seems to be stronger because they had 2 proven cheaters.
With the number off players we have now 1 cheater is enough to throw the balance and the honest players get punished again. Is anyone gonna pay back the players who lost runes, res and troops because off these cheaters? Or the ones who couldn't do anything because these 2 cheaters were protecting there clan? Never seen that happen. All I see now is a def trying to calm those cheaters down by promising to take a look at the resets off cheaters. Resets who have been aproved by 2 mods and 1 admin.

I'll just go back to the game now, taking more crap from players for opening my mouth.

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19 Reactie door Jerico

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I'll say this to Daed only, If this game runs on anything that resembles asp.net, ajax i can help you out, if not i can't unless i pick up a javascript book(my school doesn't offer javascript classes) I'm currently in class for asp.net and i can pretty much learn anything, if anything else im excellent at debugging, and id love to actually help improve beta.

20 Reactie door Wolfieke Laatst bewerkt door Wolfieke (2011-01-23 19:28:10)

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Demonic I know you try your best to keep us happy, but with the rules now we get discussion all the time. Reset is the biggest punishment. It's normal to get crap in a wargame, we get 10 times the crap because all the bugs and issues. We loose stuff because off cheaters, we loose freedom or way's to play because off cheaters. What can you do about the crap we get? I sent you a pm, you can't do a thing. Can you stop a player from attacking me or a clanmember because off the crap we get off the bugs and issues. Do all cheaters cheat deliberatly, or could it be cause the don't trusth the mods. I know the feeling, I had it with Wham. We have a history, still it's ok to let a mod be able to treath players differently? How are we players gonna prove it's so if it happens? Instead off trying to do something, you say it's fine? When is someone gonna translate those rules in dutch? Do we players have to do that? English is not my first language, I'm not a translator, if I don't explain it right, guess who gets the crap, again. We already have to explain the game to newbies and eachother. While we try to play this game, keep an eye on everything. Don't wanna abuse another bug by accident, if your 3 strike thingy would come true that would be my second one. But the freaking game is filled with them.
And again this is going on for as long as I remember and guess what, another mod saying the game is fine. Do we have to quit our dayjob to play this game?
You want to start compensating us when something goes wrong? What about the bigpointplayers who lost there villages because they couldn't get online for 9 days? Even if you send them every rune and res back, they still need the time to build it back.How do you know what we realy lost? What about the time we didn't play because we wanted to be nice and let someone figure this crap out first.
Instead off trying to make sure this crap doesn't happen again, you only look for ways to compensate the crap.
I'm asking the dev for ones do something right.

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21 Reactie door Wolfieke

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Re: Open Letter to the Developer(s)

And like you said, your so called solutions has been pushed back because of other priorities, but you want to spend your time with discussion and this crap over and over again, let the dev spend his time on this crap over and over again, when we have to deal with a million things that want to make us quit and only a few can be fixed in a reasenable amount off time. Atleast try to prevent the problems and issues instead off denieing it.
We want a fair game. That means players not able to cheat and mods not able to cheat (or abuse power or however you want to call it).

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22 Reactie door Wolfieke

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Re: Open Letter to the Developer(s)

Since I'm on it, lets get all my frustration out.
Demonic stop telling me stuff like Hidalgo quit, his village is empty. I didn't use that info until another player asked me to send a fake, can you blame him when he gets mad at you because he things you're not treathing him fair?
Don't ask me why I attacked anybody and tell me where she got those runes, can you blame those players getting mad at me?
Don't ask me if my birthdaygualie to frodo was real or not because he was attacking you.
Now tell me, how can we trusth any mod to be completly fair? I don't blame those guys for getting mad.
Don't tell me about the crap you get in pm, apperantly you don't care anyway.
I don't want to ask myself if anything I do is right or not. I don't want to get a warning if I go over the line. I don't want to talk to you about every freaking thing in my logs, no matter if it has anything to do with the rules or not. I don't want to know when you go threw my logs. We are not criminals. I don't want to have to asks a mod each time I want to do something. I don't want players to blame me cause they think I'm friends with the mods and I am allowed more. You can say it isn't true, they have no way off knowing that isn't true because you think it's ok for mods to have that kind off power. I want to play a game in a fair way, which I can be sure off is the same way for everybody.
You think it's ok now daed's admin again? Guess what, daed has friends too. And guess in what clan one off them is. Had to go threw similair crap with that guy before. And guess who got crap for trying to do the right thing.
I saw something about weapons in davids post. I don't see anything about weapons in the rules, can you blame him for thinking they get treathed differnetly?
Do I have to wait for you to get online when I want to sent a clanmember with an attack coming some better weapons.
I can ask you now, but what about the next thing, and the next and the million other things there are out there?
You say yourself the rules are cluttered with comments. Yeah we don't know what we are allowed to do.
On off the comments is you saying at this point in the game, that was weeks ago, do we need to ask the same question over and over again?
I remember saying on this forum. Ok for rules but put them somewhere only mods and devs can post, so it is clear for us, no clutter off comments. And when a player asks you a question, you can add the result to the rules so we don't have to ask the same question over and over again and it's clear and the same for every player. In the three languages this game is availeble in so again it's vlear and the same for all off us.

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23 Reactie door Ishtar

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Re: Open Letter to the Developer(s)

...and this is EXACTLY why I did not like the idea of demo being a mod. WTF is he telling player that stuff for?????

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24 Reactie door David

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wow... a bent mod. now we can rule out between "sinister" and "dumb" from my open letter.

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Re: Open Letter to the Developer(s)

Wolfieke schreef:

Since I'm on it, lets get all my frustration out.\nDemonic stop telling me stuff like Hidalgo quit, his village is empty. I didn't use that info until another player asked me to send a fake, can you blame him when he gets mad at you because he things you're not treathing him fair?\nDon't ask me why I attacked anybody and tell me where she got those runes, can you blame those players getting mad at me?\nDon't ask me if my birthdaygualie to frodo was real or not because he was attacking you.\nNow tell me, how can we trusth any mod to be completly fair? I don't blame those guys for getting mad. \nDon't tell me about the crap you get in pm, apperantly you don't care anyway.\nI don't want to ask myself if anything I do is right or not. I don't want to get a warning if I go over the line. I don't want to talk to you about every freaking thing in my logs, no matter if it has anything to do with the rules or not. I don't want to know when you go threw my logs. We are not criminals. I don't want to have to asks a mod each time I want to do something. I don't want players to blame me cause they think I'm friends with the mods and I am allowed more. You can say it isn't true, they have no way off knowing that isn't true because you think it's ok for mods to have that kind off power. I want to play a game in a fair way, which I can be sure off is the same way for everybody.\nYou think it's ok now daed's admin again? Guess what, daed has friends too. And guess in what clan one off them is. Had to go threw similair crap with that guy before. And guess who got crap for trying to do the right thing. \nI saw something about weapons in davids post. I don't see anything about weapons in the rules, can you blame him for thinking they get treathed differnetly?\nDo I have to wait for you to get online when I want to sent a clanmember with an attack coming some better weapons.\nI can ask you now, but what about the next thing, and the next and the million other things there are out there?\nYou say yourself the rules are cluttered with comments. Yeah we don't know what we are allowed to do.\nOn off the comments is you saying at this point in the game, that was weeks ago, do we need to ask the same question over and over again?\nI remember saying on this forum. Ok for rules but put them somewhere only mods and devs can post, so it is clear for us, no clutter off comments. And when a player asks you a question, you can add the result to the rules so we don't have to ask the same question over and over again and it's clear and the same for every player. In the three languages this game is availeble in so again it's vlear and the same for all off us.

Yes please don't tell people when peoples villages are left empty. It damages other mods reputations. It shouldn't but it does simply cause you are a mod. I appreciate your honesty wolfie. Thank you.