1 Onderwerp door Staracker

  • Van: Clovis, New Mexico USA
  • Geregistreerd: 2009-11-20
  • Berichten: 52

Onderwerp: Networth/Honor calculation error

my networth is 2720
my unused runes =3 or +90 making total 2810
my target's networth is 3510
yet the system thinks im 26% bigger?


Staracker
Join date:    31.10.2009 06:03
Last online:    Online now
Status:    Online
Lucky Charms
Location:    [1194,-1348]
Ranking:    171 out of 8964
Networth:    2720
Race:    Dark Elves
Honour    100
16.0 league from Deadly Charms.
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Deadly Charms
Location:    [1350,-1382]
Ranking:    213 out of 8964
Networth:    2160
Race:    Dark Elves
Honour    100
16.0 league from Lucky Charms.
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Blossomrocks
Join date:    02.11.2009 08:44
Last online:    7 hours, 30 minutes, 29 seconds ago.
Status:    Offline
Clans:    The Knight Riders
Blossomrocks's Village
Location:    [511,-642]
Ranking:    132 out of 8964
Networth:    3510
Race:    Humans
Honour    100
98.2 league from Lucky Charms.
111.9 league from Deadly Charms.
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Send troops from Deadly Charms.


   
Your honour influences your income. At the moment, your village honour is 100%.
Hourly production
    Stock    Production    Consumption    Income
   

Village Runes
    Rune    Available    Used    Used %
     Earth runes     1     10     8%
     Fire runes     1     55     42%
     Water runes     1     56     42%
     Wind runes     0     11     8%



Battle Details
Your village is 26% bigger than the defending village. You will probably lose 1 honour by attacking this village. If someone of your clan attacked this village earlier, every clan member will lose honour.
Target:    Blossomrocks's Village
Distance:    98.2 league
Attack Blossomrocks's Village

2 Reactie door Marquis Laatst bewerkt door Marquis (2010-04-12 14:59:30)

  • Geregistreerd: 2010-04-05
  • Berichten: 36

Re: Networth/Honor calculation error

Staracker schreef:

my networth is 2720
my unused runes =3 or +90 making total 2810
my target's networth is 3510
yet the system thinks im 26% bigger?


Staracker
Join date:    31.10.2009 06:03
Last online:    Online now
Status:    Online
Lucky Charms
Location:    [1194,-1348]
Ranking:    171 out of 8964
Networth:    2720
Race:    Dark Elves
Honour    100
16.0 league from Deadly Charms.
Send troops from Deadly Charms.
Deadly Charms
Location:    [1350,-1382]
Ranking:    213 out of 8964
Networth:    2160
Race:    Dark Elves
Honour    100
16.0 league from Lucky Charms.
Send troops from Lucky Charms.


Blossomrocks
Join date:    02.11.2009 08:44
Last online:    7 hours, 30 minutes, 29 seconds ago.
Status:    Offline
Clans:    The Knight Riders
Blossomrocks's Village
Location:    [511,-642]
Ranking:    132 out of 8964
Networth:    3510
Race:    Humans
Honour    100
98.2 league from Lucky Charms.
111.9 league from Deadly Charms.
Send troops from Lucky Charms.
Send troops from Deadly Charms.


   
Your honour influences your income. At the moment, your village honour is 100%.
Hourly production
    Stock    Production    Consumption    Income
   

Village Runes
    Rune    Available    Used    Used %
     Earth runes     1     10     8%
     Fire runes     1     55     42%
     Water runes     1     56     42%
     Wind runes     0     11     8%



Battle Details
Your village is 26% bigger than the defending village. You will probably lose 1 honour by attacking this village. If someone of your clan attacked this village earlier, every clan member will lose honour.
Target:    Blossomrocks's Village
Distance:    98.2 league
Attack Blossomrocks's Village

you have an op though that village has a level 10 castle in it with a level 10 castle you add 2000 to your value but you have the runes for 3240 in value inside of that castle... thats why you are appearing bigger honor is based on runes not value you have spent runes which did not give you the value you would have gotten had you spent them on something other then castle upgrades..

just look at the number of runes you have spent add them up and multiply by 30 your actual value when attacking with respect to honor loss is 3960.

  • Van: Clovis, New Mexico USA
  • Geregistreerd: 2009-11-20
  • Berichten: 52

Re: Networth/Honor calculation error

i could of swore my networth went up with each castle upgrade. but you are right, my used runes do add up to more then my current networth, strange i hadnt noticed that.

  • Geregistreerd: 2010-04-03
  • Berichten: 74

Re: Networth/Honor calculation error

I think include the runes in honor calculation is not carefully thought out. on the one hand its good to prevent rune banking. on the other hand it also prevents individual ways to play this game.

a clever man will make sure to have a stock of the necessary funds and resources before start building a house. he won't say: at the moment i haven't enough stone to build the cellar. i have only wood so i'll start building the top!

the same is in this game. example you have to improve the iron production. you need fire runes. you attack somebody but you get wind runes. you won't use it for upgrating your lumber jack if you are overflooting with wood.

one of the most important things of the game is to have enough runes for grow up in the best way  in your reason. but now you get punished if you have runes.

if i right understood every free rune is calculated with 10 points. i mean if you hold 10 or 15 free runes of every kind that's not to much and you need it to choice.  but it's like 500 or 600 points more. i mean that's not fair. especially for new players!

Punish me for my English not for my words! big_smile

5 Reactie door Marquis

  • Geregistreerd: 2010-04-05
  • Berichten: 36

Re: Networth/Honor calculation error

Staracker schreef:

i could of swore my networth went up with each castle upgrade. but you are right, my used runes do add up to more then my current networth, strange i hadnt noticed that.

your networth does go up with every castle upgrade but it only goes up by 200, for every upgrade.  so when you do your first upgrade you get 200 value for 4 runes 4X30=120 you come out ahead big_smile however when you get up to say 5th upgrade you are spending 10 runes (10X30=300) but still only getting 200 boost in value per upgrade.

it is one of the disadvantages of getting an outpost you get to have another village but your main village is weakened by the process.  a disadvantage i believe to be well worth the benefits of getting a second village smile

6 Reactie door DoomPope

  • Van: Lawrence, KS
  • Geregistreerd: 2009-11-17
  • Berichten: 580

Re: Networth/Honor calculation error

Actually, there is no need to multiply the score out. 

Spent+Free runes added on both sides is enough to figure it.  Honestly, moving honor back to just score would simplify this greatly, and make many people's lives easier.  Right now its just a touch too complicated for most to understand.

And God Said:
Δ*D = ρf                   Δ*B = 0
ΔxE = -δB/δt            ΔxH = Jf + δD/δt
and THEN there was light.

7 Reactie door Wolfieke

  • Geregistreerd: 2010-03-15
  • Berichten: 317

Re: Networth/Honor calculation error

Correct me if I'm wrong
New buildings give a score of 90
Upgrades give 30
Star has little buildings Blossom has alot, so Blossom has the same score but used less runes.

Guess who's back big_smile
Some dog in a movie: play?
  • Geregistreerd: 2010-04-03
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Re: Networth/Honor calculation error

Marquis schreef:

a disadvantage i believe to be well worth the benefits of getting a second village smile

i complete agree. it should be an aventage to have an outpost; in calculation all the time, runes and resources to upgrate your castle to level 10 and the very high costs to build that outpost.
with the same resources you could build thousands of troops!!!
and than it's only for your satisfaction to have one! all the adventages you had before are taken step by step.

Punish me for my English not for my words! big_smile

9 Reactie door Marquis

  • Geregistreerd: 2010-04-05
  • Berichten: 36

Re: Networth/Honor calculation error

Actually, there is no need to multiply the score out.

i know just trying to explain why value appears to be the way it is.

Spent+Free runes added on both sides is enough to figure it.  Honestly, moving honor back to just score would simplify this greatly, and make many people's lives easier.  Right now its just a touch too complicated for most to understand.

i agree.

10 Reactie door Wolfieke

  • Geregistreerd: 2010-03-15
  • Berichten: 317

Re: Networth/Honor calculation error

DoomPope schreef:

Actually, there is no need to multiply the score out. 

Spent+Free runes added on both sides is enough to figure it.  Honestly, moving honor back to just score would simplify this greatly, and make many people's lives easier.  Right now its just a touch too complicated for most to understand.

I agree

Guess who's back big_smile
Some dog in a movie: play?

11 Reactie door DoomPope

  • Van: Lawrence, KS
  • Geregistreerd: 2009-11-17
  • Berichten: 580

Re: Networth/Honor calculation error

Wolfieke schreef:

Correct me if I'm wrong
New buildings give a score of 90
Upgrades give 30
Star has little buildings Blossom has alot, so Blossom has the same score but used less runes.

Unless something changed all runes in buildings add 30, all castle levels add 200.

And God Said:
Δ*D = ρf                   Δ*B = 0
ΔxE = -δB/δt            ΔxH = Jf + δD/δt
and THEN there was light.

12 Reactie door Wolfieke

  • Geregistreerd: 2010-03-15
  • Berichten: 317

Re: Networth/Honor calculation error

DoomPope schreef:
Wolfieke schreef:

Correct me if I'm wrong
New buildings give a score of 90
Upgrades give 30
Star has little buildings Blossom has alot, so Blossom has the same score but used less runes.

Unless something changed all runes in buildings add 30, all castle levels add 200.

sorry just checked, new buildings are 30

Guess who's back big_smile
Some dog in a movie: play?